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Post by Cheryl on Mar 12, 2024 20:40:27 GMT
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Post by Espo on Mar 12, 2024 23:55:31 GMT
Kinda poppy to me first listen but Bucks playing is great. I love how he use to tweak his style every few years and late 70s early 80s were awesome. Especially live.
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Post by Buck on Mar 13, 2024 0:50:42 GMT
This tune was too generic pop to make it on a BOC record in the day. I forgot who wrote this, Eric brought the song in, but it wasn't any of us. Also the key was too high but Eric came up with the vocal!
It sounds to me like a song Night Ranger might have recorded, or passed on.
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Post by tambra68 on Mar 13, 2024 1:02:07 GMT
I absolutely loved this! The song, the vocals, and especially the piece where Buck plays, tv on top of tv. Clever idea! I agree about it not being the “image” for back in the day. But, DANG!!!
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Post by duckbarman on Mar 13, 2024 2:05:32 GMT
I forgot who wrote this, Eric brought the song in, but it wasn't any of us. I've always understood - via Bolle - that this was an EB composition... by saying he "brought the song in", did you mean it was by an outside writer? I've just checked the Frontiers page which hosts the erm "video" for Don't Come Running, and they don't list any writing credits at all... BTW: I bet Eric is glad he didn't have to try to do any new vocal overdubs for that one!!
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Post by zach on Mar 13, 2024 2:58:22 GMT
I forgot who wrote this, Eric brought the song in, but it wasn't any of us. I've always understood - via Bolle - that this was an EB composition... by saying he "brought the song in", did you mean it was by an outside writer? I've just checked the Frontiers page which hosts the erm "video" for Don't Come Running, and they don't list any writing credits at all... BTW: I bet Eric is glad he didn't have to try to do any new vocal overdubs for that one!! The YouTube upload on the BÖC channel under releases credits the song to Eric Bloom and Greg Winter of Eyes On Fire fame. I don't know if that's 100% accurate, but as I recall that's also who George Geranios credited the song to when it was uploaded on his channel.
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Post by duckbarman on Mar 13, 2024 3:50:20 GMT
The YouTube upload on the BÖC channel under releases credits the song to Eric Bloom and Greg Winter of Eyes On Fire fame. Cheers for that info - I didn't notice the track was on both Frontiers and the BOC YT channels - so neglected to check both... the song feels like maybe it's in the same sort of wheelhouse as Eyes on Fire so it makes sense that EB and GW might well be the creators... BTW: I've never known much about Gregg Winter, except for the fact that he was originally writing songs for the Bloom/Cannata project and when that undertaking fizzled out the songs filtered through to BOC for consideration... I've also never heard if they divided the song writing duties evenly between them - by which I mean one guy wrote all the lyrics and the other all the music...
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Post by zach on Mar 13, 2024 5:15:50 GMT
The YouTube upload on the BÖC channel under releases credits the song to Eric Bloom and Greg Winter of Eyes On Fire fame. Cheers for that info - I didn't notice the track was on both Frontiers and the BOC YT channels - so neglected to check both... the song feels like maybe it's in the same sort of wheelhouse as Eyes on Fire so it makes sense that EB and GW might well be the creators... BTW: I've never known much about Gregg Winter, except for the fact that he was originally writing songs for the Bloom/Cannata project and when that undertaking fizzled out the songs filtered through to BOC for consideration... I've also never heard if they divided the song writing duties evenly between them - by which I mean one guy wrote all the lyrics and the other all the music... I know Greg produced an album for the band Treat called the Pleasure Principle in 1986, which featured a couple of songs he wrote or co-wrote, including a version of Eyes On Fire. But that's all I know. Do you know if Greg was directly involved with the Bloom/Cannata project or were they just using his songs?
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Post by frog on Mar 13, 2024 8:26:45 GMT
The YouTube upload on the BÖC channel under releases credits the song to Eric Bloom and Greg Winter of Eyes On Fire fame. Cheers for that info - I didn't notice the track was on both Frontiers and the BOC YT channels - so neglected to check both... the song feels like maybe it's in the same sort of wheelhouse as Eyes on Fire so it makes sense that EB and GW might well be the creators... BTW: I've never known much about Gregg Winter, except for the fact that he was originally writing songs for the Bloom/Cannata project and when that undertaking fizzled out the songs filtered through to BOC for consideration... I've also never heard if they divided the song writing duties evenly between them - by which I mean one guy wrote all the lyrics and the other all the music... well, if we believe the Treat take on Eyes on Fire, he's composer and lyricist.
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Post by marty on Mar 13, 2024 13:46:06 GMT
EB commented on FB that it’s “From the same gentleman who wrote Eyes On Fire”.
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Post by duckbarman on Mar 13, 2024 16:32:32 GMT
Do you know if Greg was directly involved with the Bloom/Cannata project or were they just using his songs? I don't even know all that much about the B/C Project itself - it seems to have been Eric's response to Buck's solo record coming out circa June 82 (ish)... I know it started sometime during late 1982, and in Jan 83 Cannata was announcing in interviews he was "going out on his own and is recording an LP with Eric Bloom." In Morning Final#5, it said: Cannata had been working on songs that he wanted to publish, so Eric and he demoed the songs and submitted them to CBS. CBS was very interested in the project, but in the end wouldn't sign the project when they decided "Eyes On Fire," one of the songs, should be recorded by BÖC instead of Bloom/Cannata, and due to contractual obligations their hands were tied for presenting the material to other labels.Also, Bolle once said on FB that it wasn't just a few demos, the collaboration actually resulted in a few gigs "around LI" at the time, but I have never been able to stand that up with any evidence. The only mention I ever saw linking Gregg Winter to this project was something Bolle said about him submitting "several songs" to it in 1984 (although, obviously, Bolle got the year wrong). I have no idea how many demos were recorded for the proposed LP and I also have no clue as to whether Gregg Winter actually played as part of the B/CP or just submitted songs - in fact, I have no idea of who else was a part of that band... when BOC disbanded two years later, EB formed the EB Band (under a couple of different names) and played a handful of gigs in May/June/July 1987 with Bob Kulick, Chuck Burgi and Dennis Feldman - could maybe one or more of these be part of the earlier B/C Project?
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Post by duckbarman on Mar 13, 2024 16:35:23 GMT
well, if we believe the Treat take on Eyes on Fire, he's composer and lyricist. That sole credit is interesting - and Marty quoted EB as saying "From the same gentleman who wrote Eyes On Fire" - he didn't say " co-wrote"... this all leads me to wonder: what part did Eric write then on the BOC version?
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Post by markus on Mar 13, 2024 17:33:13 GMT
Interesting that EB went from, 'I thought Reaper was too lite for BOC,' to purposely trying to write a lite/mass-market song for the next several decades.
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Post by frog on Mar 13, 2024 18:32:39 GMT
well, if we believe the Treat take on Eyes on Fire, he's composer and lyricist. That sole credit is interesting - and Marty quoted EB as saying "From the same gentleman who wrote Eyes On Fire" - he didn't say " co-wrote"... this all leads me to wonder: what part did Eric write then on the BOC version? Well, he wrote nothing. Eyes on Fire, according to RBN credits is G. Winter alone.
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Post by duckbarman on Mar 13, 2024 18:53:31 GMT
Well, he wrote nothing. Eyes on Fire, according to RBN credits is G. Winter alone. It looks like I may have misunderstood Bolle on the subject of EoF - when Bolle said EB submitted EoF and Don't come Running demos for RBN, I assumed that meant that EB had made some sort of contribution to them - arrangement-wise, if nothing else maybe... it looks like Bolle meant EB was submitting EoF on Gregg's behalf - but as for Don't Come Running, it looks like Eric did contribute to the writing of the song on that one, as he's credited...
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