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Post by tom on Apr 26, 2019 16:07:37 GMT
Would have liked it had the constant chanting in the background were removed. :/ Ah well, for me, that's one of the features that lends an epic grandiosity to this arrangement... there's a LOT going on with this one... I'm a bit biased, I should add - I love Bear McCreary's work anyway, plus I have been known to appreciate the odd BOC tune or two.. or three... so for me, this was a great marriage... This treatment is certainly an opinion divider - a lot of people are saying they would prefer to see the original BOC Zilla used, but I honestly don't think that would fit the vibe of what they're after here - and after all, BOC's Godzilla is what it is and stands on its own two feet in that regard, but I think they've taken the essence of the song, microwaved it a little to soften the edges, and then mixed in one or two newer ingredients and then put it in a new, slightly differently-shaped dish to serve to the public (can you tell I'm in the middle of preparing my dinner?)... Besides, it must be good because Tom says he hates it... What you talking about Willis
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Post by tom on Apr 26, 2019 16:16:38 GMT
Buck when you agree to let someone cover one of your songs for release, do you get to hear what they do with before the general public hear it and if you don't like it can you object to it or is it a case once you have agreed that they can cover a song its in their hands what they do with it
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Post by CAPTAIN on Apr 26, 2019 20:43:25 GMT
good to see some recognition in a film.what took so long.the japs love godzilla.
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Post by duckbarman on Apr 27, 2019 0:32:29 GMT
At least there's no need for a version 2 of this:
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Post by ericoyster on Apr 27, 2019 0:36:46 GMT
Feckin love it!
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Post by Buck on Apr 28, 2019 5:25:33 GMT
Buck when you agree to let someone cover one of your songs for release, do you get to hear what they do with before the general public hear it and if you don't like it can you object to it or is it a case once you have agreed that they can cover a song its in their hands what they do with it No, in general, if you've got a published song out there, anybody can cover it and do their own version, as long as they don't change the words and melody. I think song parodies are an exception. I think Wierd Al Yankovik has to get permission to parody the hits he does. I didn't hear Bear McCreary's version before it was done. As the writer, I think it's a good cover. It does no harm to the song, it's pretty faithful in fact, and brings something new to the party, with the chanting and drums and Serj's vocal. You may well prefer the original version, but that's ok. I've listened many times already, and I'm good with this cover version.
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Post by duckbarman on Apr 28, 2019 19:01:32 GMT
> and brings something new to the party
As does this - and I suspect their party might have more potent alcohol available (well, it does help to break the ice)
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Post by Buck on Apr 30, 2019 5:12:54 GMT
Has anyone been listening to the Bear McCreary/Serj Tankian version of "Godzilla" after the initial news and curiosity? I have, mainly checking in to see how many plays it's gotten since its release last Thursday. I've listened to it quite a few times. Maybe 20.
There's a lot going on with that cover, and it bears repeated plays to dig it. I've read the youtube comments and understand why some people don't like it, especially as compared to the BOC versions as a preference. I can imagine McCreary may have created his version purposely to sit under the credits, but imagine he'd just created the cover to do a cover of Godzilla, without any movie. I'd be pretty impressed to hear this just out of the blue. As the writer, this is one of the few covers of BOC songs where I felt the cover artist "got" the song.
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Post by agent on Apr 30, 2019 9:34:24 GMT
Has anyone been listening to the Bear McCreary/Serj Tankian version of "Godzilla" after the initial news and curiosity? I have, mainly checking in to see how many plays it's gotten since its release last Thursday. I've listened to it quite a few times. Maybe 20. There's a lot going on with that cover, and it bears repeated plays to dig it. I've read the youtube comments and understand why some people don't like it, especially as compared to the BOC versions as a preference. I can imagine McCreary may have created his version purposely to sit under the credits, but imagine he'd just created the cover to do a cover of Godzilla, without any movie. I'd be pretty impressed to hear this just out of the blue. As the writer, this is one of the few covers of BOC songs where I felt the cover artist "got" the song. I still like it and feel it has a lot of layers to it. I shared it with 2 folks who aren't BOC Purists. My wife, for one, and she likes it. She's even gone back and listened to a few times. (Her doing this without me asking her to do it says a lot as she's mainly into Christian Rock). The other person is my co-worker. He's 37, plays Bass in a band and has played a lot of different styles, but prefers NOT to play things like Van Morrison. He really liked the cover and he listened to it a few times on his iBuds. I know he's looking forward to the movie. While this guy is kind of a walking encyclopedia, especially The Entertainment World, he wasn't aware the Movie was this close to being released. Imagine that, the Song has alerted him to an upcoming Event :-)
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Post by duckbarman on Apr 30, 2019 11:51:34 GMT
Has anyone been listening to the Bear McCreary/Serj Tankian version of "Godzilla" after the initial news and curiosity? Just a bit!! > I've read the youtube comments and understand why some people don't like it
Well, I've been reading them all - from youtube to all the various BOC FB pages - and if I had to pin down the main cause for the fans' dissatisfaction, I'd say it boils down to two aspects: (a) it's NOT BOC - well, obviously there's nothing Bear can do about this one - it's TRUE: he's NOT BOC. Personally, I have little to no sympathy for this almost Luddite stance - I can't understand it. By definition, a BOC "cover" is never going to "be" BOC... that's why it's a cover. I've heard people say: "Here's a good cover..." and the example they cite is a pretty faithful representation of the original and I think: "what's the bloody point of that?" If you're going to do a cover, then put your own stamp on it, and this is what Bear has done - I'd go further, I'd say he's put his own stomp on it... (b) the other main criticism revolves around the vocals. It's widely-thought that they're a bit nasally and "thin" - "whiny" seems a popular adjective... I have slightly more sympathy for this criticism - I like the vocals, but I don't love them - they're not as strong as the other elements in the soundscape - they're the weakest texture, if you like... even people who profess to be SOAD/Serj fans say they're not happy with this particular production... I'm no Martin Birch, but I'd maybe have tried to beef them up a bit more to give them more oomph (sorry to get technical) but it's not a deal-breaker for me as I just love the track anyway... when I first heard it, it was the drums and the chanting that mainly impressed me, but now it's the strings... it's like one of those chocolates that once the delightful outer coating has melted away there's an even nicer filling inside... I suppose the main thing I'm left wondering is: given the chance, what would Bear do with Reaper...?
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Post by agent on Apr 30, 2019 11:56:59 GMT
There’s another Godzilla movie song from Bear that follows a similar stomp on YouTube. The big difference? About a Half a million views...
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Post by Buck on Apr 30, 2019 14:47:46 GMT
I had a great conversation with Bear McCreary last Friday. He said that when they mixed his version of "Godzilla" they wound up de-emphasising some band elements, presumably to make room for the chanting and the taiko drums. I guess there was more to the rock band tracks than wound up in the movie version. I'm convinced that Bear's personal love of BOC and "Godzilla" is the only reason the song made the movie. The 70's BOC version likely would not have hit the right vibe for the film.
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Post by duckbarman on Apr 30, 2019 15:02:13 GMT
The 70's BOC version likely would not have hit the right vibe for the film. I think that's an important aspect that many people aren't lending enough weight to...
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Post by tom on Apr 30, 2019 15:54:15 GMT
I've listened to it several times and still think its garbage
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Post by robreich on May 1, 2019 1:35:56 GMT
I really like it.
In fact, I'll be doing the chant - along with an interpretative dance - at my next BÖC gig. :-)
But seriously, I really like it, and a BÖC cover is going to be in a major movie. Hot damn.
Rob
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