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Post by frog on Mar 11, 2023 17:24:56 GMT
Hat tip to John Carpenter. He got the whole "Reaper" thing rolling. I had to checked because it's really close. Halloween was released in the US on October 25, 1978 and The Stand was released on October 3, 1978.
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Post by duckbarman on Mar 11, 2023 20:00:46 GMT
Hat tip to John Carpenter. He got the whole "Reaper" thing rolling. and The Stand was released on October 3, 1978. From what you say, it sounds like Reaper is quoted in the book itself, which is something I never knew - I thought it was just an inspired addition to the the 90's TV version... as you can tell, I've never read the book myself - it looked too "thick"...
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Post by Espo on Mar 11, 2023 20:57:54 GMT
It was, if I remember correctly,the foreword in the book. I read the uncut version (1,100 pgs). Took forever but it was great. Never really been a big fan of his but would definitely recommend.
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Post by frog on Mar 11, 2023 21:53:49 GMT
and The Stand was released on October 3, 1978. From what you say, it sounds like Reaper is quoted in the book itself, which is something I never knew - I thought it was just an inspired addition to the the 90's TV version... as you can tell, I've never read the book myself - it looked too "thick"... yep, it was the foreword of the book.
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Post by joe on Mar 12, 2023 2:40:00 GMT
Hat tip to John Carpenter. He got the whole "Reaper" thing rolling. Never thought about it, but you're right. DFTR came out in 1976 and Halloween in 1978, so I'm almost certain that was the first major motion picture (or TV show for that matter) that featured it. Even if it was only a short piece, but Blue Öyster Cult was given proper and the only song credit in large bright orange at the end. Halloween was the perfect movie for a first use and credit. I can't remember how many times we've watched that movie. It set a new standard that future horror movies had to live up to, and IMHO the majority didn't. It also set up DFTR as a "go to" standard for similar scenes in other movies. Stephen King remembered that for it's perfect use at the beginning of "The Stand".
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Post by joe on Mar 12, 2023 2:56:27 GMT
Hat tip to John Carpenter. He got the whole "Reaper" thing rolling. I had to checked because it's really close. Halloween was released in the US on October 25, 1978 and The Stand was released on October 3, 1978. You had me confused at first. The 1978 "The Stand" appears to be the book only. The audio of the song itself was in the 1994 TV miniseries "The Stand". I understand that Buck's DFTR was one source of inspiration for the book itself.
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Post by frog on Mar 12, 2023 8:23:03 GMT
Actually, three songs serve as invocations and mood music to begin the book. Bruce Springsteen, BÖC and Bob Dylan. In the 1990 edition of the novel (the one you can buy today), Bob Dylan is replaced by Country Joe and the Fish.
The BÖC excerpt is :
And it was clear she couldn’t go on! The door was opened and the wind appeared, The candles blew and then disappeared, The curtains flew and then he appeared, Said, “Don’t be afraid, Come on, Mary,” And she had no fear And she ran to him And they started to fly … She had taken his hand … “Come on, Mary; Don’t fear the Reaper!”
—Blue Öyster Cult
But its inclusion in both Halloween and The Stand at the same time shows the importance of DFTR in the zeitgeist of that era.
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Post by marty on Mar 12, 2023 20:47:32 GMT
Hat tip to John Carpenter. He got the whole "Reaper" thing rolling. Never thought about it, but you're right. DFTR came out in 1976 and Halloween in 1978, so I'm almost certain that was the first major motion picture (or TV show for that matter) that featured it. Even if it was only a short piece, but Blue Öyster Cult was given proper and the only song credit in large bright orange at the end. Halloween was the perfect movie for a first use and credit. I can't remember how many times we've watched that movie. It set a new standard that future horror movies had to live up to, and IMHO the majority didn't. It also set up DFTR as a "go to" standard for similar scenes in other movies. Stephen King remembered that for it's perfect use at the beginning of "The Stand". I suppose Halloween and The Stand are perfect, creepy wise and about death, to use DFTR, but lyrically, and literally, to me the perfect use would have been for the movie Ghost, when Patrick Swayze character tells Demi Moore character that “the love goes on”, because DFTR is more about love and connection and spirits traveling from “here” but now “there”, not about death, especially not murder, as in Halloween, or mass death, as in The Stand. Highly recommend The Stand, for all you readers, out there!
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Post by joe on Mar 13, 2023 1:52:04 GMT
Never thought about it, but you're right. DFTR came out in 1976 and Halloween in 1978, so I'm almost certain that was the first major motion picture (or TV show for that matter) that featured it. Even if it was only a short piece, but Blue Öyster Cult was given proper and the only song credit in large bright orange at the end. Halloween was the perfect movie for a first use and credit. I can't remember how many times we've watched that movie. It set a new standard that future horror movies had to live up to, and IMHO the majority didn't. It also set up DFTR as a "go to" standard for similar scenes in other movies. Stephen King remembered that for it's perfect use at the beginning of "The Stand". I suppose Halloween and The Stand are perfect, creepy wise and about death, to use DFTR, but lyrically, and literally, to me the perfect use would have been for the movie Ghost, when Patrick Swayze character tells Demi Moore character that “the love goes on”, because DFTR is more about love and connection and spirits traveling from “here” but now “there”, not about death, especially not murder, as in Halloween, or mass death, as in The Stand. Highly recommend The Stand, for all you readers, out there! Ghost was an excellent movie; my wife has watched it probably more than several times. But, for a movie like Ghost I wonder how many of it's viewers would have understood or known the real message that DFTR is intended to convey? And would have made the proper connection, or jumped to some other conclusion? Most of the people that I've tried to explain DFTR to (friends, family, etc.) really don't know much past the first verse, which they interpret as death and bad things happening.
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Post by marty on Mar 13, 2023 14:15:42 GMT
I suppose Halloween and The Stand are perfect, creepy wise and about death, to use DFTR, but lyrically, and literally, to me the perfect use would have been for the movie Ghost, when Patrick Swayze character tells Demi Moore character that “the love goes on”, because DFTR is more about love and connection and spirits traveling from “here” but now “there”, not about death, especially not murder, as in Halloween, or mass death, as in The Stand. Highly recommend The Stand, for all you readers, out there! Ghost was an excellent movie; my wife has watched it probably more than several times. But, for a movie like Ghost I wonder how many of it's viewers would have understood or known the real message that DFTR is intended to convey? And would have made the proper connection, or jumped to some other conclusion? Most of the people that I've tried to explain DFTR to (friends, family, etc.) really don't know much past the first verse, which they interpret as death and bad things happening. Totally agree, I just meant literally and lyrically, with the love going to the light, and the loveless staying in the dark. Musically, Reaper is perfect for Halloween and The Stand. Especially the bridge, which is the epitome of macabre, but also glorious, which would have been perfect for that part of Ghost, too.
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Post by Buck on Mar 13, 2023 17:03:35 GMT
As much as I liked "Ghost" and DFTR, I don't think it would have been right for the movie. Some slower and more melancholy version of the sentiment. I would have like to have given a shot at writing a tune for it.
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Post by soonerbillz on Mar 14, 2023 4:19:46 GMT
As much as I liked "Ghost" and DFTR, I don't think it would have been right for the movie. Some slower and more melancholy version of the sentiment. I would have like to have given a shot at writing a tune for it. I'm not 100% sure but I think maybe "The Hitcher" with Rutger Hauer would have been a good landing for DFTR. At the least it might have been great fodder for a BØC score.
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Post by duckbarman on Apr 6, 2023 14:00:21 GMT
Said, “Don’t be afraid, Come on, Mary,” And she had no fear And she ran to him And they started to fly … She had taken his hand … “Come on, Mary; Don’t fear the Reaper!” I skipped over that when I first read it, but someone just posted an image of that page on FB and the "Mary" bit leapt out at me... It's unlikely to be a misheard lyric as people check all that stuff prior to publication so I was just wondering: who's Mary...? Anyone know what's the story there?
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Post by joe on Apr 8, 2023 3:02:19 GMT
Supposedly Buck did an interview on "Little Steven's Underground Garage" and said this was his favorite DFTR cover. Don't know how long ago that was, but the video was put out there 4 years ago. I couldn't find the interview, maybe it's in the Facebook link in the YouTube comments. I have Facebook totally blocked so I couldn't look there. Anyway, the cover is interesting in itself.
From "Stuart Adamson - In A Big Country: Tribute Channel"
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Post by redhouserocker on Apr 8, 2023 3:08:20 GMT
Supposedly Buck did an interview on "Little Steven's Underground Garage" and said this was his favorite DFTR cover. Don't know how long ago that was, but the video was put out there 4 years ago. I couldn't find the interview, maybe it's in the Facebook link in the YouTube comments. I have Facebook totally blocked so I couldn't look there. Anyway, the cover is interesting in itself. From "Stuart Adamson - In A Big Country: Tribute Channel" Just listened and that's pretty dang good!
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