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Post by The Ocean on Aug 4, 2020 3:27:15 GMT
I'm studying to take the Pennsylvania Bar exam (being held in October, delayed from July), and so on top of spending 9-5 sitting at my computer for my regular job, I then have to sit there until usually 9 or 10 every night to do the bar prep program I'm using. I keep trying to get ahead of the curve by using the hours on the weekend that I'm not working to study beyond the schedule, but even today I still only JUST finished after a regular work day. The biggest problem for me with the Bar exam is it's just a test of how well you memorize things. Only 90 minutes of the entire exam is a skills test in Pennsylvania. The rest is just a hazing ritual. The only thing that matters is your ability to apply and analyze a rule to facts. Memorizing rules is useless when you can just look everything up. In fact, you'd be irresponsible not to look a particular rule up and just go by memory. I've been taking guitar lessons for the first time ever (I've been self-taught since 2001, but I have reached a limit in skill a few years ago, and I can't go any further without some help). So I still manage, even after sitting at my computer up to 13 hours a day, to practice at least one hour each day. I will probably never have the kind of speed I would like, but I am getting better at my precision with picking, which has always been quite sloppy. I have improved my skills with legato, bends, and I have gotten faster than I used to be (not objectively fast, but faster than I was). It's been well worth the money. So, this isn't exactly my own personal "Summer of George," but I am still managing to make the best of the free time I have, what little there is.
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Post by zenman on Aug 4, 2020 14:18:38 GMT
All that work should keep you out of trouble.
Professional rituals are not fun. In my field (psychology) writing the GRE (Graduate Record Examination) was a real headache, as was the tedium of writing a dissertation and remembering all the obscure little rules that are meaningless in the Real World (gratuitous BOC reference).
Keep your head straight and enjoy the journey as best you can!
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Post by The Ocean on Aug 4, 2020 14:31:00 GMT
All that work should keep you out of trouble. Professional rituals are not fun. In my field (psychology) writing the GRE (Graduate Record Examination) was a real headache, as was the tedium of writing a dissertation and remembering all the obscure little rules that are meaningless in the Real World (gratuitous BOC reference). Keep your head straight and enjoy the journey as best you can! Thanks man. I'm not opposed to testing minimum competency at all. But that's not what the Bar does. It just tests your ability to learn how to take the test. The only part of it that is in any way applicable to whether you can do the job is a small portion of it is the Multi-state Performance Test (MPT) or for Pennsylvania the PA Performance Test. In that one they give you facts, and a made up library of law and cases, and you have 90 minutes to create a document of some kind that is randomly assigned (whether it is a memo, a motion, a letter to a client, etc), using the facts and applying the laws and cases you are given as accurately as possible based on the laws in question. You can fake it by memorizing stuff; I know a TON of incompetent lawyers. One thing you can't fake is whether you can actually apply law to facts and explain how you did it. I went to school with more than a few elitist jackasses who acted like we were special because we were going to be lawyers, but the dirty little secret is that almost ANYBODY can do this if they put in the work. The trouble is that the gatekeeping is designed to weed out people based on things that have no bearing on whether they'd be any good at being a lawyer. The LSAT does not prepare you for law school. Law school does not prepare you for the Bar exam. The Bar exam does NOT measure how good a lawyer you will be. It's a skill like any other that any person can learn if they do the work, and I despise the elitism involved in it. Now, when it comes to the medical field (such as yours), that's some shit I admire greatly. I know I could never do that. I could never be any kind of scientist. I just don't have the mind for it. I have done poorly in ANY science field that wasn't biology or geology. Chemistry, Physics, astrophysics, etc..... over my head. I failed chemistry TWICE in my undergrad and physics once, and eventually I realized I could satisfy my science requirements by just going up the chain in Bio since I sucked at that the least. I took a class on psychology and it was hella-difficult for me. Beyond my ken, as the saying goes. So I have the utmost respect and awe for people who do any kind of medical field, becuase *over-my-head gesture*.
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Post by mary on Aug 4, 2020 18:49:53 GMT
That reminds me of the summer I spent studying for the CPA exam up in Delaware. It was 30+ years ago, so none of it was computerized. I had a set of review books for each part of the exam. I would come home from work each evening and just sit in a chair and read through my books. It paid off, I passed all four parts of the exam the first time I took it. I still have the letter I received telling me my exam scores.
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Post by duckbarman on Aug 4, 2020 18:54:48 GMT
The biggest problem for me with the Bar exam is it's just a test of how well you memorize things. You've just described the basis of how most exams work... for good or bad...
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Post by zenman on Aug 5, 2020 13:25:12 GMT
All that work should keep you out of trouble. Professional rituals are not fun. In my field (psychology) writing the GRE (Graduate Record Examination) was a real headache, as was the tedium of writing a dissertation and remembering all the obscure little rules that are meaningless in the Real World (gratuitous BOC reference). Keep your head straight and enjoy the journey as best you can! Now, when it comes to the medical field (such as yours), that's some shit I admire greatly. Not medicine. Psychology. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
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Post by The Ocean on Aug 5, 2020 13:43:44 GMT
Now, when it comes to the medical field (such as yours), that's some shit I admire greatly. Not medicine. Psychology. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. I guess I'm just used to classifying any kind of treatment as medicine. I'll try to break myself of that habit.
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Post by zenman on Aug 5, 2020 13:59:36 GMT
You're not wrong. I'd say there's a continuum of treatment that ranges from medical/chemical/biological to philosophical/existential and everything in between. And if a person is a Californian, they can blame it all on aliens.
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Post by The Ocean on Aug 5, 2020 15:21:07 GMT
No they can't. Remember the rule: don't report this.
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Post by zillagodreturns on Aug 9, 2020 21:20:38 GMT
No they can't. Remember the rule: don't report this. ETI-level confidentiality is at the heart of our profession, for the most part. Privilege, and that's all they said...
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Post by The Ocean on Aug 25, 2020 0:53:39 GMT
Hey ZillaGod, I'm about fifteen minutes away from throwing my Themis bar prep shit out a window. I'm five weeks in and six weeks to go. And if I have to answer ONE more question about admission of character evidence I swear to god....
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Post by zillagodreturns on Aug 31, 2020 20:20:08 GMT
Hey ZillaGod, I'm about fifteen minutes away from throwing my Themis bar prep shit out a window. I'm five weeks in and six weeks to go. And if I have to answer ONE more question about admission of character evidence I swear to god.... If 1277 is the express to heaven, then 404 is surely providing nonstop service to hell
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Post by lacosta on Sept 19, 2020 0:07:58 GMT
When I was writing my dissertation, I did everything just not to write a dissertation. I spent hours on YouTube watching analyzes of different songs and even bought myself a new guitar. Given that I am a programmer and music is as far as possible from my skills. But it's good that I found a dissertation help and continued to play the guitar. As a result, we even formed a band.
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Post by The Ocean on Sept 20, 2020 19:30:02 GMT
When I was writing my dissertation, I did everything just not to write a dissertation. I spent hours on YouTube watching analyzes of different songs and even bought myself a new guitar. Given that I am a programmer and music is as far as possible from my skills. But it's good that I found a dissertation help and continued to play the guitar. As a result, we even formed a band. That's pretty sweet! What was your dissertation on? In law school we don't even have any cumulative research project or anything. We have a writing requirement but basically I chose one of the papers I made for one of my electives. It was about how the equal protection clause is toothless to practically enforce the goal of Brown v. Board of Education, since de facto segregation cannot be remedied, only discrimination under the color of law. So communities formed as whites-only neighborhoods, even decades after it was made illegal, result in almost statistically total white school districts in many parts of the country.
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Post by beanguy on Sept 24, 2020 15:58:28 GMT
When I was writing my dissertation, I did everything just not to write a dissertation. I spent hours on YouTube watching analyzes of different songs and even bought myself a new guitar. Given that I am a programmer and music is as far as possible from my skills. But it's good that I found a dissertation help and continued to play the guitar. As a result, we even formed a band. That's pretty sweet! What was your dissertation on? In law school we don't even have any cumulative research project or anything. We have a writing requirement but basically I chose one of the papers I made for one of my electives. It was about how the equal protection clause is toothless to practically enforce the goal of Brown v. Board of Education, since de facto segregation cannot be remedied, only discrimination under the color of law. So communities formed as whites-only neighborhoods, even decades after it was made illegal, result in almost statistically total white school districts in many parts of the country. You mean discrimination by color really exists? Seriously, I am amazed at the lengths people go to to discredit this fact.
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