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Post by robreich on Aug 21, 2020 2:00:28 GMT
I had the good fortune of spending some excellent evenings with Bolle and basking in the Museum of Cult. The labels on the cassette boxes were red, signifying that it was not trade-able unlike the non-red cassettes of live shows, for example.
He had a lot of great stuff, butI had three songs that I heard (this was in the mid 90s by the way) that I totally fell in love with and tried to permanently imprint to my brain. One was, much to my later delight, Stone of Love. Still one of my favorite songs ever. The demo I had heard was the one George recently posted on YouTube.
The second was another RBN work-up called Don’t Come Running. I can still sing the chorus. I’m flummoxed that it’s never seen the light of day, I really thought it sounded like a hit. EB vocals. I have asked George to see if he can find this one. I hope he does and that it’s as good as I remember. BD, do you remember that one?
Rob
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Post by robreich on Aug 21, 2020 2:10:47 GMT
Speaking of George Geranious...
I had the chance to chat with George a couple times over the years. My favorite interaction was Labor Day weekend 1995 in Southern California. The boys were on fire for three consecutive shows, it was amazing. The second night at the Ventura Theatre they played Astronomy. BD steps off the stage and on to the table I’m sitting at with some other hardcore fans. He then plays the most amazing solo -the space time continuum was torn and I was transported into a Ditko-esque alternate reality. You guys know how it goes.
Anyways, I walked up to George at the soundboard after the show and simply smiled at him. He said “you know, after all of these years, that guy still gives me the chills.” ‘Nuff Said,
Rob
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Post by Buck on Aug 21, 2020 4:16:30 GMT
I'm digging the Ditko reference Rob. : ) I totally get it.
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Post by duckbarman on Aug 21, 2020 11:10:31 GMT
I had the good fortune of spending some excellent evenings with Bolle and basking in the Museum of Cult. The labels on the cassette boxes were red, signifying that it was not trade-able unlike the non-red cassettes of live shows, for example. So, really, we should have been referring to it as the "red label" collection all these years... ? Oh dear, I'm going to find it very difficult to get rid of the mental image of a box, though... > not trade-able unlike the non-red cassettes of live shows, for example
As far as I know, that only applied to audience recordings - Bolle kept all the soundboards untraded, to the best of my knowledge... so all those incredible 1973-1975 soundboard recordings are still in a box somewhere (the colour of which being yet to be determined)... Does that situation do anybody any good? Think of it this way - it's an already existing - and much sought after - resource - so why not put it to use? At the very least, making these recordings available on the band's youtube channel on a semi-regular basis in future could keep that channel vibrant and current... creating a buzz, I believe the kids are calling it... and that'd be really groovy, baby... or should that be daddio...?
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Post by robreich on Aug 21, 2020 11:13:46 GMT
Amen, brother Ralph, I love the YouTube idea.
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Post by frog on Aug 21, 2020 11:52:38 GMT
either the youtube idea, but it's awfully compressed, or sell the FLACs. it's easy money. Maybe not much, but easily done. (Hell, some of us bought multiple copies of the last outings because they were available...)
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Post by frog on Aug 21, 2020 11:54:37 GMT
I'm digging the Ditko reference Rob. : ) I totally get it. Just because...
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Post by The Ocean on Aug 21, 2020 15:01:33 GMT
either the youtube idea, but it's awfully compressed, or sell the FLACs. it's easy money. Maybe not much, but easily done. (Hell, some of us bought multiple copies of the last outings because they were available...) I like the idea of selling them as FLAC's. Pearl Jam has been selling their soundboards as purchasable concerts for years, FLACs or physical discs. I have almost 30 of them. I mean, if that stuff were offered to purchase there'd definitely be some money in it from us, but they have to consider whether the die-hards are enough to cover the costs. The costs could be kept low by just making them CD-R's, perhaps. I'd buy every one of 'em I could afford. The Buck Dharma archives were available when I didn't have any of my own money, for example, but if they are ever revived again you bet I'd buy one. I've bought each of the new releases of the last year from the remaster of Cult Classic to Live in London, so if there's some new BOC release for me to burn a hole in my pocket with, I'm game. I don't know if it will ever happen though. To start, philosophically I think it would depend on whether they even want people to hear unfinished and unpolished works in progress and stuff like that. By way of an example I have a friend who does illustration and painting, and he will share his work every step of the way until it is finished. One of my exes is a musician and she does not like posting anything until it is for sure finished and totally to her exact standards. And if different members of the band have a differing philosophy on that point, they'd have to come to an agreement to get it released even if they owned them. And that's the other thing. The soundboard recordings might not be an issue, but I wonder who owns studio outtakes, and whether the oyster boys will get that much from their release. Maybe I'm too cynical. Maybe this surge in BOC activity on frontiers might inspire columbia to dig into the vault. Who knows?
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Post by Alessandro on Aug 21, 2020 15:37:14 GMT
the process of baking multi-track tapes from the mountain and remixing them is quite expensive and I believe Sony took the money for the early remasters from the band's royalties. therefore, even if at least albums like Cultosaurus and Fire'd truly deserve the "bonus track" treatment, I believe this will never happen and we'll never get to see an official release of, say, songs like Gun or Il Duce. I discussed it on facebook with our beloved French Frog and we agreed on the fact that a limited edition of CDr's like Buck's Archive Series would be fine. problems are: licensing from Sony (that should own the copyright in everything has been recorded during their deal with the band, 1971-1990) - management and band members agreeing - somebody actually taking care of compiling and burn 'em. an official release of Live in the West, which has already been mixed, would be easier, but also in this case I believe Sony's not interested at all. their work on BÖC's back catalogue ended with the box set (and what about the Tyranny & Mutation Quad?).
oh, well, as far as those recordings are more than interesting for us fans, let's focus on the new opus, now.
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Post by frog on Aug 21, 2020 16:10:05 GMT
amen to that.
(except the last sentence... I hear admiral Ackbar yelling "it's a trap !")
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Post by marty on Aug 22, 2020 1:50:30 GMT
Speaking of George Geranious... I had the chance to chat with George a couple times over the years. My favorite interaction was Labor Day weekend 1995 in Southern California. The boys were on fire for three consecutive shows, it was amazing. The second night at the Ventura Theatre they played Astronomy. BD steps off the stage and on to the table I’m sitting at with some other hardcore fans. He then plays the most amazing solo -the space time continuum was torn and I was transported into a Ditko-esque alternate reality. You guys know how it goes. Anyways, I walked up to George at the soundboard after the show and simply smiled at him. He said “you know, after all of these years, that guy still gives me the chills.” ‘Nuff Said, Rob Loved the hangs with George in the late 90’s. Seems like I have a copy of the Ditko show, I’ll have to dig into the Midwest cultfolio.
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Post by zillagodreturns on Aug 22, 2020 6:40:17 GMT
Speaking of George Geranious... I had the chance to chat with George a couple times over the years. My favorite interaction was Labor Day weekend 1995 in Southern California. The boys were on fire for three consecutive shows, it was amazing. The second night at the Ventura Theatre they played Astronomy. BD steps off the stage and on to the table I’m sitting at with some other hardcore fans. He then plays the most amazing solo -the space time continuum was torn and I was transported into a Ditko-esque alternate reality. You guys know how it goes. Anyways, I walked up to George at the soundboard after the show and simply smiled at him. He said “you know, after all of these years, that guy still gives me the chills.” ‘Nuff Said, Rob I was at that show!
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Post by frog on Aug 22, 2020 12:50:24 GMT
Loved the hangs with George in the late 90’s. Seems like I have a copy of the Ditko show, I’ll have to dig into the Midwest cultfolio.
Yep, show is available from the live archives. the not red one.
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Post by robreich on Aug 23, 2020 0:57:35 GMT
I'm digging the Ditko reference Rob. : ) I totally get it. Just because... The only place I’ve seen it Would be in Strange Tales comics You remember those.....
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Post by zillagodreturns on Aug 24, 2020 4:17:00 GMT
Sofa king kewl, I'm digging it!
Kind of has a "Light Years" vibe to it, to my ears at least.
I do so love the Maestro's voice...maybe as much as his guitar skills.
Buck songs have always been my favorites...Perfect Water, Deadline, just everything. I don't think there's one I don't like.
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