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Post by joe on Jun 3, 2022 21:42:01 GMT
See the announcement at: nypost.com/2022/06/03/creem-legendary-rock-magazine-relaunches-after-33-years/Subscriptions for CREEM 2.0 launched online June 1, 2022 Digital archive of 228 issues and 69,000 photos. The archive is publicly accessible, with a 30-day free trial offer through August, after which time it’ll be free with print subscriptions. I didn't sign up. but a search for "Blue Oyster Cult" returned 225 hits. You can see thumbnails of a lot of the results without signing in.
(This post is not an ad for or an endorsement of the magazine.) |
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Post by Buck on Jun 4, 2022 20:15:44 GMT
Cool that the archive is there. Folks that never read Lester Bangs can do it now.
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Post by sirrastus on Jun 4, 2022 23:28:37 GMT
Yeah tres cool Boy Howdy!!!
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Post by Cheryl on Jun 13, 2022 8:27:03 GMT
Cool that the archive is there. Folks that never read Lester Bangs can do it now. Time to research the Creem edition print articles of Lester Bangs in Bolle’s Archive books I’m scanning. Seems I’ve seen that before so I’m going to look once again. I may just look into ordering this magazine. Cool archives I’m sure |
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Post by The Ocean on Jun 13, 2022 12:06:57 GMT
What a treasure trove!
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Post by frog on Jun 13, 2022 15:10:28 GMT
Ralph ?
are you on it ?
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Post by sirrastus on Jun 13, 2022 18:10:02 GMT
Years ago while in Brooklyn College I took a part time job as a messenger.I discovered an old magazine store around 51st and 9th ave in Manhattan.The guy had everything(I'm sure one of the collectors got wind and bought it out).I looked thru old Famous Monsters Of Filmland like No 7 which I had as a kid but didn't have much dinero so I settled on the Creem mags with the reviews of BOC's first two albums.I've since become FB friends with Ed Naha who wrote the review of BOC.He mentioned in the article the as yet unheard SFG record and how insiders told him how good it was. Damn I wish I had the bucks to grab those FMOF mags I had a collection of early issues when I was younger.On a side note I was at a friends apt in Brooklyn around '82 and he had issue NO 2 of Famous Monsters.He said hey take a look at it and as I tried turning the pages they were breaking up as he never stored them properly-it was like the scene from the Time Machine when the Eloi show Rod Taylor the books and they just crumble to dust.Sad actually.
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Post by joe on Jun 14, 2022 2:07:36 GMT
Guess I need to figure out what to check out while the free trial is still in place. The few things I've looked at the scan quality is really good. They went to a lot of work to make that archive available. I'm still playing musical catch-up from my nerd HS and college days, so while I knew of CREEM I didn't know who Lester Bangs even was. Looks like he wasn't afraid to print what he thought. Not like today. Wrote for Rolling Stone too I see. Here's just the first BOC one I stumbled on in Rolling Stone - positive review of BOC's first album. Had to get it from an old RS snapshot. web.archive.org/web/20060924155326/https://www.rollingstone.com/artists/blueoystercult/albums/album/185387/review/6067531The link below shows a partial summary of some of the reviews Bangs gave about some of BOC's" competition" at the time in RS. Some are pretty funny, like this one: “The whole album is a shuck—despite the murky songtitles and some inane lyrics that sound like Vanilla Fudge paying doggerel tribute to Aleister Crowley, the album has nothing to do with spiritualism, the occult, or anything much except stiff recitations of Cream cliches that sound like the musicians learned them out of a book, grinding on and on with dogged persistence.”
There was a funnier one, but I decided not to post that one!
Easily found here: gloriousnoise.com/2006/lester_bangs_in_rolling_stoneFor those of you that REALLY followed the music back in the day, looks like you can have a field day with the archives out there! |
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Post by duckbarman on Jun 15, 2022 15:56:29 GMT
Well, yes... and no... Yes, because I have - or know about - most of the main features, although not so much the "smaller stuff - that site lets you search for all BOC mentions, but whenever I try to investigate those search results, I get asked to input my Subscriber details, which I naturally lack, so that's where the "no" comes in... |
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Post by frog on Jun 15, 2022 16:10:25 GMT
Well, yes... and no... Yes, because I have - or know about - most of the main features, although not so much the "smaller stuff - that site lets you search for all BOC mentions, but whenever I try to investigate those search results, I get asked to input my Subscriber details, which I naturally lack, so that's where the "no" comes in... what about the one month free trial ? |
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Post by joe on Jun 16, 2022 2:05:28 GMT
I think I hit the archive right after the website fired up. The menus I see seem different now. All I can get is thumbnails of anything worthwhile. I haven't registered.
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Post by duckbarman on Jun 16, 2022 14:45:20 GMT
what about the one month free trial ? Oops! I'd misread - or, more correctly - misunderstood the message on their site - it said for your free trail, "login with your Creem ID"... I thought that meant you had to be a Creem (print) subscriber already - with an ID - to get the access to the digital archive... doh! Anyway, I've now registered and got my "ID", and my access... annoyingly, I seem to have most of the BOC stuff in there already, but I was able to pin dates on a few LP reviews that I had but which were previously without any dating information... but one big plus for me was the access they give you to the text versions of the articles as well as the image scans... pretty useful feature, I thought... one thing - I couldn't see any access to the Creem 'special editions' eg "Creem Close Up - Metal Music" - I know BOC were in the May 83 issue, for example, but all I could see were the 'normal' issues... Anyway, just got to wait for Circus and Hit Parader to do the same thing, now... :-) BTW: archive.org is always a useful site to keep an eye on - there's some weird "digital lending library" procedure they have in place, but you get access to a lot of interesting stuff - here's a link to their current Circus entries, for example: Circus entries on archive.org |
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Post by frog on Jun 16, 2022 16:27:38 GMT
wow. never knew about that. letter for Circus editors, 1974... This magazine has always remained nonpartisan when it pertains to any po- litical situation. Our policy has been to report on rock & roll music and to pre- sent as objective a point of view as pos- sible. We must take exception, however, to an advertisement which appeared on page 19 of the June 1974 issue of CIRCUS Magazine. Unfortunately, in the very hectic moments of a deadline, we carelessly shipped some last minute ads to our printer without looking closely at what was in the package. The advertisement is for the new Blue Oyster Cult LP, Secret Treaties, which depicts the boys situated in a World War II setting, while surrounded with Nazi effects. It shows the boys in American, German and English mili- tary outfits with a poster of Hitler on the wall, a map of the British Isles at- tached to a blackboard with German War Plans and a pin-up of Betty Grable on a locker door, among other things. We cannot accept this interpretation and challenge it. We do not find the commercialization of the Nazi cult as something that is to be seen as hip or as a matter to be joked about. To ig- nore the real meaning of these sym- bols of horror and to use them to mer- chandise an aibum is nothing less than gross insensitivity. We speak now on this matter, for not to speak out on this kind of thing would be to recreate the silence which permeated the Nazi era. CIRCUS Magazine
and hmmm... Kiss' "SS" was ok I guess ?
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Post by duckbarman on Jun 16, 2022 20:03:17 GMT
wow. never knew about that.
and hmmm... Kiss' "SS" was ok I guess ?
Yes, that's the argument EB always made when interviewed on the subject... but there were other examples of double standards. This unashamedly exhibits Nazi glorification, apparently:  whilst this is just a record promo and is fine for page 2:  If you consider Rothberg's holier than thou comments, you'll see they don't bear any scrutiny whatsoever - "surrounded with Nazi effects"?? My arse !! - it's a WW2 pilot's ready room surrounded by appropriate period props - but with an added layer of intrigue - notice the antique telescope and crystal ball, for example... as for " a poster of Hitler on the wall", it's more akin to a dartboard than anything else... this guy was floundering for justification, and coming up very short... |
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Post by duckbarman on Jul 2, 2022 19:14:39 GMT
I've certainly been enjoying reading through all those old archived Creems in chronological order - it's been interesting seeing all the different trends develop and then fade away as you progress through the timeline towards late '80s oblivion... For a while, Meltzer had his own regular column ("Dust My Pumice") as well as the occasional article which I found to be always worth a read, even if the subject wasn't of any particular obvious interest to me... eg... I was reading through the May 71 issue, and came across the TV reviews section, and noticed the title was "Real Good Shows This Year, Real Good" so I glanced at the end expecting to see Meltzer's name but saw "Audie Murphy Jr." instead... reading it, it seemed obvious who wrote it, especially when suddenly, completely out of context, he mentions a comment made about Angela Cartwright by "Manny out of Stalk-Forrest"... it was almost like he was trying to surreptitiously get their name into Creem under the radar... Then I noticed, amongst the record reviews, something that seemed to be out of place - a rather deranged review for Tanqueray gin!! This one was written by "Northwest Miami" - and guess what - Stalk Forrest again make an appearance... I can't do the piece justice so I'll post it here and hope it's legible (the scans for the earlier editions on the Creem site aren't fantastic):  By the way, the funny part is that both of these mentions appeared in the May '71 edition, but if he was hoping to subliminally introduce the name "Stalk Forrest" into people's consciousnesses, he was destined for disappointment. Within two months the band had changed their name, auditioned for Columbia and got their recording contract as "BOC"... |
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