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Post by The Ocean on Feb 21, 2023 13:34:59 GMT
It would help ignore people were interested in supporting unique artists with unique voices. I kind of wish there were a list people who’ve given up on new music could go to that says “check out these refreshingly original artists who aren’t getting enough play.”
Sadly such lists aren’t actually curated and are just an algorithm of new music put together based on what people are already listening to, which is how we got in this mess in the first place. “You may also like” is helpful to steer people to stuff they know damn well they will listen to.
I want a list that says “you might REALLY hate this, but it also might blow your fucking mind.”
In the last decade I’ve found one artist I’m excited about. Plenty I’ve liked on some scale yeah, but only one that has made me feel excited about music. That’s sad to me.
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Post by Buck on Feb 21, 2023 16:19:23 GMT
I was thinking of Adrienne Barbeau in "Creep Show."
"Call me Billy. Everybody does."
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Post by soonerbillz on Feb 21, 2023 17:52:58 GMT
I was thinking of Adrienne Barbeau in "Creep Show." "Call me Billy. Everybody does." Love Adrian Barbeau she was in one of my favorite movies Escape from New York with two of my other most favorite actors, Lee Van Cleef and Kurt Russell
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Post by sirrastus on Feb 21, 2023 18:04:15 GMT
I was thinking of Adrienne Barbeau in "Creep Show." "Call me Billy. Everybody does." Love Adrian Barbeau she was in one of my favorite movies Escape from New York with two of my other most favorite actors, Lee Van Cleef and Kurt Russell John Carpenter's wife.Maybe they listened to BOC together.
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Post by zenman on Feb 21, 2023 20:37:43 GMT
Love Adrian Barbeau she was in one of my favorite movies Escape from New York with two of my other most favorite actors, Lee Van Cleef and Kurt Russell John Carpenter's wife.Maybe they listened to BOC together. Escape was a good flick. I just watched Lee Van Cleef in one of Clint Eastwood's spaghetti westerns.
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Post by sirrastus on Feb 21, 2023 20:48:07 GMT
John Carpenter's wife.Maybe they listened to BOC together. Escape was a good flick. I just watched Lee Van Cleef in one of Clint Eastwood's spaghetti westerns. Lee Van Cleef started out in 50's film noir and horror films.He's the guy that shoots the radioactive isotope into the Beast From 20,000 Fathoms(much like Clint Eastwood was the pilot who burned up the Tarantula) and the nutty scientist in It Conquered The World.
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Post by thomcat00 on Feb 21, 2023 21:11:16 GMT
It would help ignore people were interested in supporting unique artists with unique voices. I kind of wish there were a list people who’ve given up on new music I want a list that says “you might REALLY hate this, but it also might blow your fucking mind.” In the last decade I’ve found one artist I’m excited about. Plenty I’ve liked on some scale yeah, but only one that has made me feel excited about music. That’s sad to me. Find different sources for music. I explore heavily on Bandcamp and dig into label catalogues such as MoonJune, Cuneiform, 1K, 7dMedia, and DiN. Sometimes it is a producer who has worked with artists I like and I check out other artists they have worked with. Those old Pete Frame family trees were a blessing for finding good music, not necessarily the “if you like a, you may like b” mapping but it could give some kind of a start to the exploration.
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Post by robreich on Feb 22, 2023 0:13:58 GMT
I was thinking of Adrienne Barbeau in "Creep Show." "Call me Billy. Everybody does." When I saw The Fog as a teenager I was in love.
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Post by joe on Feb 22, 2023 2:15:14 GMT
It would help ignore people were interested in supporting unique artists with unique voices. I kind of wish there were a list people who’ve given up on new music could go to that says “check out these refreshingly original artists who aren’t getting enough play.” Sadly such lists aren’t actually curated and are just an algorithm of new music put together based on what people are already listening to, which is how we got in this mess in the first place. “You may also like” is helpful to steer people to stuff they know damn well they will listen to. I want a list that says “you might REALLY hate this, but it also might blow your fucking mind.” In the last decade I’ve found one artist I’m excited about. Plenty I’ve liked on some scale yeah, but only one that has made me feel excited about music. That’s sad to me. I'm sure that there are a lot of younger, or just beginning, artists that may be REALLY good that have just given up. I don't know the business but I imagine it is really hard to break in nowadays. We have found a number of good TV shows based on the "You might like ___" suggestions on Netflix, Amazon, etc. Many have come from other countries - we watched several really good ones that came out of Mexico. Would have never found them without them being put in front of us. May be easier to do with shows/movies because they can put a picture up front and center along with a brief synopsis with something in there that might catch your attention before even sampling. I don't know how you would do this with music unless there was a visual. Then, who's gonna pay for the teaser? Old guys like me get set in their ways. I have limited time during a day to actually listen to music, so I have more than I can eat just from the bands I already know. The new artists I liked usually were in some BBQ joint or something playing for whatever gets put in the guitar case, but even then they were usually doing a cover of somebody. There was one guy that could really play a wide variety of music on his acoustic, and his voice was excellent too. His solo rendition of Mrs. Robinson was almost good enough to have been used in the movie. He was/is very popular and pretty booked up playing private parties. I didn't like his originals, but I may have just heard a tiny subset. Any time we know he was playing we would always go eat there. I guess he's as close to excited as I've come.
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Post by joe on Feb 22, 2023 2:17:21 GMT
I was thinking of Adrienne Barbeau in "Creep Show." "Call me Billy. Everybody does." When I saw The Fog as a teenager I was in love. The Fog and Adrienne Barbeau ruled.
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Post by seamus on Feb 22, 2023 20:26:50 GMT
I was thinking of Adrienne Barbeau in "Creep Show." "Call me Billy. Everybody does." Love Adrian Barbeau she was in one of my favorite movies Escape from New York with two of my other most favorite actors, Lee Van Cleef and Kurt Russell You know what ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK NEEDED? More Cowbell!
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Post by mcamp on Feb 22, 2023 21:28:32 GMT
The thing about most pop/rock music today....its audience is isolated in its own echo chamber. Before the onset of streaming services, and satellite radio, "we" all listened to either AM or FM radio. We all tuned in together....one could drive thru Boston and hear the same song blaring out of car radio's....It was more communal. I'm not saying that it affected the quality, because thru the years the airwaves were always filled with shit songs. With that said, it is amazing how many bands put out excellent quality albums, and put one out a year. That seemed to change during the 80's when it could be 3-5 years between releases. Bottom line...the formula for writing a "hit" is not easily achieved...if it were, I'd have 10 gold albums:-)
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Post by redhouserocker on Feb 23, 2023 1:41:00 GMT
"Bottom line...the formula for writing a "hit" is not easily achieved...if it were, I'd have 10 gold albums:-) " I wish I could tell you That you'll get a break But there's no way to tell just what it would take... Some people make it They learn the trick They make it to the song and they rock in the final mix.... "Secret Road" 🙂 Wish we all knew that trick....LOL
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Post by delclayman on Feb 24, 2023 4:45:08 GMT
This analysis matches my listening impression over 7+ decades. The '50's and '60's were probably the peak of variety as far as what could become a pop hit. Records would break out of small markets and go national as a result. The Top 40 was populated by all genres of music and quirky tunes could still shoehorn in if they caught the public's fancy. The '70's began the era of radio programming 'consultants,' who would program the playlists of 100's of stations nationwide. Great if you made that cut, but bad for the variety of what you heard, since the effort to copy the hits intensified and music became more uniform. Then in the '80's, the drum machines and synths drove the sound of pop, and the music began to sound more similar as well as the content. In the '90's radio had become stratified by genre, and you had to skip around if you wanted to hear anything but one type of music. Listeners DIDN'T listen to just one genre, as proved by looking at Napster playlists in the early internet days. Everyone had tunes from all over the spectrum. Sirius and terrestrial radio still stratifies music by genre, don't ask me why. I don't know. The new century introduced AutoTune vocals and Beat Detection, further reducing micro-variations of pitch and rhythm, making music that much more identical. Every release competed to be the 'loudest' on radio, so all music now is as loud as the technology can make it. The tech today can make music so loud it's oppressive. I turn stuff down now, instead of turning it up, to try to listen to it. Also, pop melodies today are largely simple, repeated phrases over a limited number of chord changes. Dumbed down to the level of nursery rhymes. The oldie nursery rhymes are more tuneful. Hey you kids! Get off my lawn! I agree. True talent and originality has surrendered and given way to droning, robotic technology. IMO, real Rock & Roll has died a terrible death.
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Post by Buck on Feb 24, 2023 17:38:05 GMT
It may be because I'm now an old-timer, but what I miss most about today's popular music is swing. I like some swing in my grooves.
If I want metronomic beats, I'll listen to The Prodigy's "Fire Starter." Come to think of it, "Fire Starter" swings too.
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