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Post by soonerbillz on Aug 6, 2022 13:27:26 GMT
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Post by The Ocean on Aug 6, 2022 22:09:26 GMT
I like Def Leppard but that’s a load of shit. Saying there are no good bands out now is admitting you’re not listening. People have been saying that for decades and decades and sure enough hindsight proves them wrong.
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Post by joe on Aug 7, 2022 3:05:01 GMT
I really don't keep up with what all is happening in the rock music scene like some of you do, so just some questions/ramblings (that I really don't expect you to answer! - just some thoughts...):
Is it that there are too many new bands around now and none have found a way to REALLY stand out?
And what would be the mechanism for one to really stand out above the crowd?
Is the taste preferences of today's audience so WIDE that each taste is a small "niche"?
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Is the taste preferences of today's audience so NARROW that each taste is a small "niche"?
Then that begs the question of who is the "audience"?
In the "old days" (my time) things seemed a lot more straightforward: radio play, word-of-mouth, touring to smaller venues to smaller audiences - hence more word of mouth, no streaming - you either taped it from over the radio or you actually went and BOUGHT an physical record/CD - and hoped that a band you loved came to town, etc.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned, but it seems like today there are a whole lot more moving parts and a lot more gears that need to line up "just right".
(I'm sure there are a number of good bands out there, and you're right, I'm not spending that much time listening - I tend to stick to what I already know and ONCE IN AWHILE I'll stumble onto something new that I really like.)
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Post by The Ocean on Aug 7, 2022 3:59:45 GMT
I think a big part of it is that the present day is always saturated with music good and bad, and what is present and popular may be bad, but it’s only in retrospect when we see the great stuff that has endured. And by that time it’s in the past. I’ve forgotten so many terrible bands that were around when I was a kid but still got all the airplay. Now I’m left with the good stuff. At this point I’m seeking out as much new music as I can.
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Post by warrior21 on Aug 7, 2022 8:57:29 GMT
Odd thing to say, since not long ago, he and Joe guested on a track by The Struts.
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Post by mcamp on Aug 8, 2022 20:24:36 GMT
suggesting that the music scene is currently lacking “inspired” music and instead filled with “derivative stuff”.
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I can certainly see where he's coming from.
My daughter (22) goes to a bunch of shows....she's into what would be called "the indie rock scene".
Take for instance...she's going to see a band called Mom Jeans....I checked out a bunch of their songs; it sounds like dozens of bands that pump out what I would call "power pop".
I don't hear much of anything original.
But with that said, thru the ages there have always been "trend setters", and the ones that jump on the current bandwagon....I don't hear any trend setters currently....just going down the beaten path.
A Google search for "today's most popular modern rock acts" lists bands that came out 25 years ago, such as Green Day....not exactly current.
But we now live in the world of "Spotify", and all the other streaming sources. The model has changed from buying "physical product" that found it way onto the FM dial, played on a radio station that actually had a soul....not this lifeless product that is being peddled.
IMO, I think the current state of rock music has fueled the throngs of "tribute acts"....I see many young people attending these shows because the alternative is Mom Jeans.
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Post by joe on Aug 9, 2022 1:57:08 GMT
I wonder if country and western (C&W) performers are having some of the same problems? Or not?
The area I live in is very C&W oriented. I'm not into C&W so I don't really follow the going's on. However I have a small but very established C&W venue (I won't name) very close to me. Sometimes all the parking places near the venue are taken. Used to see band buses there, but not so much anymore. Some say this is where Willie Nelson really got his start.
So sometimes when we drive by we try to see the name of the performer that is filling up the place which is usually hand painted on a sign hanging on the side of the fence. But usually I have to look up the name on their website. Most of the names I'm not familiar with, but I look them up and some are "relatively" new to the business and have racked up any number of national C&W awards and seem to sell out much larger venues. And the ticket prices are NOT cheap, especially for a mostly outside standing room crowd.
So there seems to be some relatively new artists managing to "break through" and stand out from the pack. I wonder if the C&W genre has a totally different business model or is more organized in putting forth their most popular artists? Or is it just a narrower genre with fewer people competing for the top?
I don't have any clue about any of this compares to the rock music business, so it's just an observation.
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Post by mcamp on Aug 9, 2022 10:32:33 GMT
IMO, Country music is a niche market....country music fans like country music....hard rock, not so much. I have an ex-co-worker who is in a country music band....I saw him last year at a local venue with two other bands on the bill; the place was packed, with a $25 cover charge.
I guess where I'm getting at (and with plenty of generalizations)....the country crowd is pretty devoted, but doesn't venture outside the genre.
With that said, I feel that today's "indie" crowd, the same could be said. The band Mom Jeans is playing the HOB Boston (capacity 2400)...not exactly a bar band, but as someone who explores the entire music scene, I still have never heard of them.
To put the current music scene in perspective, I recommend watching the PBS 6 part series called Icon: Music Through the Lens, especially part 6 where it discusses the change from film camera's to digital. It is a microcosm on how social media has changed the music landscape across all genres. That genie ain't going back into the bottle.
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