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Post by soonerbillz on Oct 12, 2023 3:30:26 GMT
This is his story on the genesis of Astronomy
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Post by Buck on Oct 13, 2023 2:45:22 GMT
One detail is inaccurate in Albert's tale. The train trip back to NY wasn't from Pensacola FL, it was from Charleston NC. We'd gotten snowed in after a gig at The Citadel military academy. Airports closed, not a snowplow in the state. They were using road graders to clear highways and runways. After spending the day after the gig in town, we were able to get an AmTrack train back to NYC. My only sleeper train ride.
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Post by duckbarman on Oct 13, 2023 3:41:34 GMT
One detail is inaccurate in Albert's tale. The train trip back to NY wasn't from Pensacola FL, it was from Charleston SC. We'd gotten snowed in after a gig at The Citadel military academy. Airports closed, not a snowplow in the state. They were using road graders to clear highways and runways. After spending the day after the gig in town, we were able to get an AmTrack train back to NYC. My only sleeper train ride. That's interesting - on 10 Feb 1973 BOC had a gig booked with Quicksilver MS in Nashville, but when I found a review of the gig, here's what it said at the start: The War Memorial Auditorium dripped with the "blues" Saturday night - for four long hours. An ill omen surfaced early in the evening when Blue Oyster Cult, one of the featured bands, was snowbound in South Carolina and forced to cancel. This development disheartened the young audience, many of whom were looking forward to their first encounter with the new group.
Determined to enjoy themselves, the fans' spirits were yet reconciled by assurances that the better known band, Quicksilver Messenger Service, had arrived on schedule. And to boot, promoter Joe Sullivan had found two Nashville groups, Flat Creek and Charlie Daniels Band, to pacify any hard feelings.The problem has always been that I didn't know of any SC BOC gig at that time and have been on the lookout for one, especially one that involved BOC getting snowed in afterwards... therefore, I think that's the gig you're talking about, in which case the Citadel gig took place on Friday 9 Feb 1973. It's hard to tell, but I think maybe Albert's thinking of something else - BOC played Florida a few times in 1972 - twice with the James Gang in May, once with Dr John (Pensacola) and twice with the Allmans in June, and twice with Jeff Beck in October which were supposed to have been recorded but Sandy Pearlman said: "Jeff Beck... we had this amazing show in Jacksonville recorded during a hurricane, and it was amazing, and about half an hour before the show, Murray and I were meant to be recording both Beck, for a future 'live' album, and the Cult, and he said: 'you can't do this, this bothers me'. So an amazing show was lost to posterity."... Anyway, I'm wondering if Albert is thinking about the Beck shows but is mixing up the Eaton's Neck stuff - especially as I think Eric didn't move in there until early 73.... |
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Post by Buck on Oct 13, 2023 13:06:16 GMT
Albert's recollections are generally more pointed than mine, but we're all getting old. : )
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Post by redhouserocker on Oct 13, 2023 13:14:05 GMT
God I love this wrangling over historical minutia for accuracy! Is there any other board or group of fans who take such an endeavor so seriously? I think not. You guy's are amazing at this...and this one BOC obsessive fan appreciates it all! Sound's like Buck's memory of things is a little better than Alberts'. Honestly who could be blamed for mixing up details from so long ago....it amazes me how good you guys are at keeping it straight!
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Post by javan on Oct 13, 2023 14:56:05 GMT
One detail is inaccurate in Albert's tale. The train trip back to NY wasn't from Pensacola FL, it was from Charleston NC. We'd gotten snowed in after a gig at The Citadel military academy. Airports closed, not a snowplow in the state. They were using road graders to clear highways and runways. After spending the day after the gig in town, we were able to get an AmTrack train back to NYC. My only sleeper train ride. Your March 12, 1985 gig in D.C. was also snowed out. Ask me how I @&!^%# know. I had to threaten to sue the venue to refund the $ I spent for what would've been my first BOC show. That would've been my first concert ever. Instead, later that year (which became freshman year in college) I saw Oingo Boingo. Gotta say, if I can't have BOC as my first show, I certainly got a helluva consolation prize. |
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Post by duckbarman on Oct 13, 2023 15:08:05 GMT
One detail is inaccurate in Albert's tale. The train trip back to NY wasn't from Pensacola FL, it was from Charleston NC. We'd gotten snowed in after a gig at The Citadel military academy. Airports closed, not a snowplow in the state. They were using road graders to clear highways and runways. After spending the day after the gig in town, we were able to get an AmTrack train back to NYC. My only sleeper train ride. Your March 12, 1985 gig in D.C. was also snowed out. Presumably the Bayou - but how sure are you it was the 12th - I have that gig down as "12/13 March" as I couldn't find a confirmation as to which one it was. The other problem I had sort of mirrored the one with the SC gig: the explanation for BOC missing the Bayou show was that "Joe had been stuck in Norfolk, Va and couldn't make it up, so they canceled it." I always wondered - why just Joe and not the whole band? If it had been a BOC gig in Norfolk then surely they'd all have been stuck? If there had been a show in Norfolk the night before, then I'm currently missing a gig... It's always been a bit of a mystery... |
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Post by tambra68 on Oct 13, 2023 18:04:45 GMT
One detail is inaccurate in Albert's tale. The train trip back to NY wasn't from Pensacola FL, it was from Charleston NC. We'd gotten snowed in after a gig at The Citadel military academy. Airports closed, not a snowplow in the state. They were using road graders to clear highways and runways. After spending the day after the gig in town, we were able to get an AmTrack train back to NYC. My only sleeper train ride. I’ve ridden many trains, mostly across Europe, but I have not been on a sleeper ride. I have always found that intriguing, and wondered if the sound of the rails would lull you to sleep. That’s on my bucket list! Also, totally enamored with the history provided from Buck. If I ever grow up, I aspire to travel with the band as a historian! |
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Post by javan on Oct 13, 2023 20:26:26 GMT
Your March 12, 1985 gig in D.C. was also snowed out. Presumably the Bayou - but how sure are you it was the 12th - I have that gig down as "12/13 March" as I couldn't find a confirmation as to which one it was. The other problem I had sort of mirrored the one with the SC gig: the explanation for BOC missing the Bayou show was that "Joe had been stuck in Norfolk, Va and couldn't make it up, so they canceled it." I always wondered - why just Joe and not the whole band? If it had been a BOC gig in Norfolk then surely they'd all have been stuck? If there had been a show in Norfolk the night before, then I'm currently missing a gig... It's always been a bit of a mystery... I looked up the weather and it shows that Virginia got 2" of snow on March 13, so let's go with that. Yes, it was the Bayou. BOC went back the following August. Pat Travers came out for a killer Roadhouse Blues with a LM2T bit thrown in. Eric had his Bud guitar. I did not know that Joe had left by then and thought, gee, he looks young. "He" was Jon Rogers, IIRC. |
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Post by Buck on Oct 14, 2023 15:24:09 GMT
BOC was not playing The Bayou at that time. We were in halls only, not clubs. The Bayou era happened after we were out of arenas. Can't speak to a cancelled DC date around the time of the snowed in Charleston SC show.
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Post by duckbarman on Oct 14, 2023 16:08:57 GMT
BOC was not playing The Bayou at that time. We were in halls only, not clubs. The Bayou era happened after we were out of arenas. Can't speak to a cancelled DC date around the time of the snowed in Charleston SC show. No, the gig Javan was talking about was another snow-related cancellation - only this one was much later in March 1985 at the Bayou. One guy who had tickets told me he was informed that the reason the gig was cancelled was that Joe was snowed in in Norfolk VA. I was just thinking it was odd that it was only Joe that was cited in the explanation, and not the whole band, so maybe Joe wasn't in Norfolk on a band-related matter, maybe it was a personal thing? Whichever it was, he was apparently stranded and couldn't make the gig, which was subsequently cancelled... |
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