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Post by soonerbillz on Jan 25, 2024 17:50:11 GMT
Just read that a certain former musical band member has called for a song from their former band to not be played during certain political events.
Without going into the this or that of politics how do you feel about such demands? Are they appropriate?
Especially if the songs rights have been sold to another entity.
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Post by frog on Jan 25, 2024 18:16:47 GMT
totally appropriate.
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Post by Espo on Jan 25, 2024 19:06:27 GMT
I've always found this to be silly.
Am I going to favor X candidate because I like the song or dislike the band because I dislike the candidate. It's just nuts to me.
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Post by markus on Jan 25, 2024 22:31:27 GMT
Things like this keep me awake at night.
Actually...No.
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Post by joe on Jan 26, 2024 2:31:54 GMT
Appropriate to make a request, you can always ask for anything you want. Doesn't mean the request will, or even should, go anywhere. Especially for a one-off event and the complexity of copyright laws which are just SO crystal clear.
Without even suggesting any name, party, or anything else, "Dancin' in the Ruins" and "Damaged" could be song candidates in their own right.
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Post by javan on Jan 26, 2024 2:41:47 GMT
If you don't wanna take it anymore, go wang chung tonight because you gotta fight for your right to party. And remember, at the end of a hard day's night when you've been working like a dog, little pink houses for you and me. You poor, fucking humans. You've bit off more than you can chew.
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Post by tambra68 on Jan 26, 2024 19:24:19 GMT
Aren’t there laws for this very thing? First and foremost, those should be honored. After that, I would think it is totally up to the band, or the copyright holder. If they choose to allow it, then they should be compensated for it. There could also be disclaimer’s that could come into play at this point.
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Post by agent on Jan 26, 2024 23:47:15 GMT
If you don't wanna take it anymore, go wang chung tonight because you gotta fight for your right to party. And remember, at the end of a hard day's night when you've been working like a dog, little pink houses for you and me. You poor, fucking humans. You've bit off more than you can chew. Pass The Bong, James! #ImIn |
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Post by javan on Jan 27, 2024 2:28:28 GMT
If you don't wanna take it anymore, go wang chung tonight because you gotta fight for your right to party. And remember, at the end of a hard day's night when you've been working like a dog, little pink houses for you and me. You poor, fucking humans. You've bit off more than you can chew. Pass The Bong, James! #ImIn Psst, c'mere. Don't report this: Gummies That's all I said (I am in black) |
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Post by joe on Jan 27, 2024 2:32:07 GMT
If you don't wanna take it anymore, go wang chung tonight because you gotta fight for your right to party. And remember, at the end of a hard day's night when you've been working like a dog, little pink houses for you and me. You poor, fucking humans. You've bit off more than you can chew. Pass The Bong, James! #ImIn
Just don't try that in a small town.
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Post by agent on Jan 27, 2024 2:39:27 GMT
Pass The Bong, James! #ImIn
Just don't try that in a small town.
Really! ...I'd have to be The Dealer, too  |
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Post by The Ocean on Jan 27, 2024 3:20:04 GMT
I can understand the desire not to be affiliated with politics.
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Post by joe on Jan 27, 2024 3:38:22 GMT
Aren’t there laws for this very thing? First and foremost, those should be honored. After that, I would think it is totally up to the band, or the copyright holder. If they choose to allow it, then they should be compensated for it. There could also be disclaimer’s that could come into play at this point. Yes, there are laws. But the laws are complicated, especially when the artists have "signed over" some or all of their "rights" to other entities. As I understand it, political campaigns can purchase or otherwise get legal access to use songs through arrangements they make with someone like ASCAP or BMI who have been granted the authority to do that based on their rights agreements with the artists directly or through another party. I've read that in some of the more publicized disputes the campaign(s) DID indeed legally acquire usage rights.
I'm no expert in music copyright and usage legalities, so somebody with actual training or detailed understanding please correct anything I got wrong!
I think in a lot of cases the disputes have a lot less to do with the legality of the usage than with the political views of the artists vs. those of the campaigns.
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Post by tambra68 on Jan 27, 2024 16:25:38 GMT
joeI’m with you, I’m no expert on the matter. However, if the band/singer has signed over their rights, I would presume that was done for financial gain, or a different reason that benefited the artist(s). At this point, I would say it would/should be pretty cut and dry. You no longer have the right, or say so, about this matter. If you want to maintain control over your intellectual property, then do not sell ir. I would be mortified if a political party, that I disagreed with used my song in their campaign, however, if I didn’t maintain my control, then it would just be too bad for me. Especially in the cases where the candidate had done their due diligence, and been given the “all clear” to use it. Just my opinion.
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Post by javan on Jan 27, 2024 19:31:47 GMT
Not every artist cooperates and I say if they want to act tough, beat 'em up. You can be all whatever you wanna be, in the BOC army.
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