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Post by Alessandro on Apr 16, 2024 13:11:05 GMT
I got the Japanese version today, too. Roadhouse Blues sounds good. I must admit, I find Japanese bonus tracks irritating when they should be on the core album, especially for streaming purposes. The Japanese packaging doesn't show that Roadhouse Blues is included, it's just listed on the Japanese language insert. Anyone know when this version of Roadhouse Blues was recorded? The write up (in the Japanese insert) talks about the song being released as a single in 1982, but that was the live version from ET Live. So it's not clear to me whether this version was recorded earlier, or around that same '82 timeframe. still have to ask George about it, but my guessing is it was either recorded during rehearsals for the SEE tour early in '78 or jamming during the pre-production sessions for Mirrors. the other two cover songs come from 1978
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Post by marty on Apr 16, 2024 13:26:34 GMT
Anyone know when this version of Roadhouse Blues was recorded? The write up (in the Japanese insert) talks about the song being released as a single in 1982, but that was the live version from ET Live. So it's not clear to me whether this version was recorded earlier, or around that same '82 timeframe. still have to ask George about it, but my guessing is it was either recorded during rehearsals for the SEE tour early in '78 or jamming during the pre-production sessions for Mirrors. the other two cover songs come from 1978 If it’s Rick Downey on drums, then it wasn’t earlier, it would have been in 82. If it’s Albert, then I doubt if it would have been 78, because they didn’t start playing Roadhouse until 1980.
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Post by Buck on Apr 16, 2024 16:00:50 GMT
You folks know more about this than I do.
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Post by soonerbillz on Apr 16, 2024 16:06:21 GMT
You folks know more about this than I do. 😆😆
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Post by frog on Apr 16, 2024 18:24:43 GMT
You folks know more about this than I do. where is the "heart" emoji when we need it !
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Post by Espo on Apr 16, 2024 19:57:08 GMT
The fans knowledge of this band is incredible. Especially since they were never plastered on the covers of all the music mags.
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Post by Cheryl on Apr 16, 2024 20:59:25 GMT
You folks know more about this than I do. where is the "heart" emoji when we need it ! Guess you have to put it this way Frog🤍❤️
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Post by joe on Apr 17, 2024 2:28:03 GMT
You folks know more about this than I do. where is the "heart" emoji when we need it ! What kind you looking for?
🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤Ɉ🤍💔❣💓💗💖💘💝🖤
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Post by javan on Apr 17, 2024 3:06:05 GMT
You folks know more about this than I do. We've known more about BOC than you for a long time. (If we didn't, you'd be Donald Roeser.)
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Post by zach on Apr 17, 2024 7:38:02 GMT
Since you folks know more than Buck, does anyone know roughly when Late Night Street Fight was recorded? I seem to recall around when George originally uploaded it on his YouTube channel it was described as a Revolution By Night preproduction track. But the Ghost Stories press indicates Albert played on it and not Rick Downey, so that seems unlikely.
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Post by Alessandro on Apr 17, 2024 8:04:25 GMT
Since you folks know more than Buck, does anyone know roughly when Late Night Street Fight was recorded? I seem to recall around when George originally uploaded it on his YouTube channel it was described as a Revolution By Night preproduction track. But the Ghost Stories press indicates Albert played on it and not Rick Downey, so that seems unlikely. George can't possibly be wrong because his tapes are labelled, so it's not a case of memory failing. IMHO che credits on the CD are wrong, and the drummer is indeed Rick. wouldn't be the first time you find mistakes in the liner notes. there's a slim chance that Albert might have redone the drums, but if you downloaded the rough mix from YouTube before it was deleted and you listen back to it, the drum track is pretty much the same. so I'm sticking with George. short example of wrong liner notes: Symbol Remains liners state there's a theremin on Florida Man but as you listen to the album the theremin is clearly audible on Fight.
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Post by duckbarman on Apr 17, 2024 9:46:59 GMT
IMHO che credits on the CD are wrong It's a BOC CD - of course the liner notes are wrong...
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Post by zach on Apr 17, 2024 10:15:23 GMT
I'm still waiting on my Ghost Stories CD so I don't know what the actual liner notes indicate exactly. I've just seen that the various articles and such about the release only credit Rick for drums on So Supernatural and Don't Come Running To Me. If there was a mixup and it indeed a RBN era track, I guess that means all the songs besides the covers are either from the Mirrors and Revolution periods.
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Post by duckbarman on Apr 17, 2024 11:23:34 GMT
Here's what Bolle said about those RBN demos recorded by George: This is my listing for what went down during these recorded Feb-April, 1983 Pre-Production Rehearsals at GPG's Amazing Loft at 39 Pearl Street in Brooklyn (Just by the base of the Bridge).
Titles they worked on as Pre-Pro sessions were as follows: Feel The Thunder, at that time known as Sleep Of A Thousand Tears with Michael Moorcock's Lyrics. Take Me Away, Double Talk, Don't Come Running, Stone Of Love, Outlaws On The Run, Eyes On Fire, Late Nite-Street Fight, Veins, Light Years Of Love, Dragon Lady, and Shadow Of California w. Vocoder Vocals!
These were all recorded and Mixed from 1" 8-Track tapes, by GPG! There was also a different Recording with Aldo Nova of Take Me Away as recorded at Kingdom Sound Studios. A Most fantastic hour of pure and uplifting pleasure of BÖC in the Studio.
Reading the above, I'd submit that sounds like it would make a decent disk all on its own - and I reckon they could have done that if they weren't so bothered about it having to sound fantastic... It's a bunch of demos! They don't need to be demixed and remixed and overdubbed etc - they're demos!! Just release the George versions as is, and we'll be perfectly happy because that way we'd get to hear Sleep with the MM lyrics and Outlaws on the Run etc... if any needed say, a missing vocal, not because the original "bled" into the drums or whatever, but because one was never recorded due to the track being abandoned, then fair enough, if I'd been in charge of organising the project, I'll allow a "new" one to be added if an original version can't be salvaged :-) There's a rough list of all the demos that are known to have been submitted, and by whom, based largely on Bolle's info here: www.hotrails.co.uk/bociaq/features/boc_demos_bolle.htm#revolution_by_nightBTW: according to the album notes, Street Fight was credited to Joe and EB, which is the first I've heard of Eric's contribution to that track (that's if that's accurate, of course - it's a BOC sleeve, so I'd say the chances are 50/50...)
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Post by zach on Apr 17, 2024 12:37:35 GMT
I generally agree. Ghost Stories is great as a one off project, but it would be nice to get a second or third release that was maybe marketed more as a rarities compilation than a semi-new original album. I personally don't mind the tinkering (I too have a dime store version of MAL for my own amateur remixes and clean up jobs for things) but I agree, just because the sound quality isn't the greatest, doesn't mean people don't want to hear it. Stuff like George's uploaded version of In The Presence Of Another World for instance is something I know a lot of fans have clamored for : studio recordings of Imaginos songs with BÖC actually playing on them. And yeah the recording is pretty rough, but with just little of my own (totally amateur) audio editing, it sounds pretty good. Not "new album in 2024" good, but releasable.
It might be the case that the Eric's name on the songwriting credits might be a case of "change a word, get a third" as Buck had suggested regarding Don't Come Running To Me. Or maybe it's a more accurate credit, like with Eric being added to E.T.I.
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