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Post by soonerbillz on Dec 4, 2022 1:56:29 GMT
A bit later. I am gonna put this out there. After so much.. so many concerts. This album has become to me as good as any of the stuff before. Maybe as good as OYFOOYK. Sacrilegious as that might be. I'll be the 1st.. to say.. How dare I say such a thing? I am probably the biggest fan of early BÖC shit. Yeah.. you all are gonna give me shit for that. Ya'll be big ass know it all stat and numbers guys.. But I've been to tons of shows.. been digging the boys forever. For fucking ever.. This album is probably the best one ever. The thing is.. they made this knowing it might be the last one EVER. And the shit is they played it just like that.. perfect
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Post by edog40 on Dec 4, 2022 4:50:06 GMT
I said it one of THE best of all BÖC releases. Agree
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Post by frog on Dec 4, 2022 14:31:39 GMT
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Post by Buck on Dec 5, 2022 1:06:44 GMT
Can someone give me a thumbnail on the Contrarians, so I don't have to spend 37 minutes watching it?
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Post by seamus on Dec 5, 2022 1:38:21 GMT
Can someone give me a thumbnail on the Contrarians, so I don't have to spend 37 minutes watching it? CONTRARIAN: a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion I know that’s not what you meant but I can’t help myself
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Post by joe on Dec 5, 2022 2:31:27 GMT
Can someone give me a thumbnail on the Contrarians, so I don't have to spend 37 minutes watching it? I didn't spend 37 minutes either. For somebody that listened to the whole thing - did they reach any kind of consensus? The description of the "show" on YT: "The crew discusses the rock band Blue Öyster Cult's album The Symbol Remains.
The Contrarians is a show where one of us jumps in the hot seat picks a dark horse album from a band as that band's best album. The guest host will argue against them with facts, stats and all around truth, subjective and objective! Agree, disagree or agree to disagree!"
Opinions are opinions. The YT comments from the people that DID watch it and that are "average" fans were generally positive on the album. You can keep some people happy some of the time, but you can't keep all people happy all of the time.
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Post by seamus on Dec 5, 2022 3:06:54 GMT
The guest host will argue against them with facts…… subjective and objective!] Have always found these “discussions” as enlightening as having someone explain to me why their favorite flavor of ice cream is the best.
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Post by The Ocean on Dec 5, 2022 4:18:20 GMT
A bit later. I am gonna put this out there. After so much.. so many concerts. This album has become to me as good as any of the stuff before. Maybe as good as OYFOOYK. Sacrilegious as that might be. I'll be the 1st.. to say.. How dare I say such a thing? I am probably the biggest fan of early BÖC shit. Yeah.. you all are gonna give me shit for that. Ya'll be big ass know it all stat and numbers guys.. But I've been to tons of shows.. been digging the boys forever. For fucking ever.. This album is probably the best one ever. The thing is.. they made this knowing it might be the last one EVER. And the shit is they played it just like that.. perfect It made its way into my top 5 of theirs along with Secret Treaties, Agents, Mirrors, and Fire. It’s solid as a fucking rock from beginning to end. Haven’t listened to it from start to finish in about two months or so but I’m about to give it another go soon enough.
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Post by javan on Dec 5, 2022 5:33:12 GMT
I just want to know why you left "The Alchemist" off Secret Treaties, "Edge of the World" off Mirrors, and "Tainted Blood" off Specters!!!
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Post by frog on Dec 5, 2022 7:57:03 GMT
Can someone give me a thumbnail on the Contrarians, so I don't have to spend 37 minutes watching it? Actually, as it could be predicted, the consensus is neither Disappointement nor Best Album Ever. They're evidently glad the Symbol exists ! (but I'm pretty sure you can watch the last 5 minutes and have most of the experience.)
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Post by luxexterior on Dec 5, 2022 13:32:13 GMT
Without a doubt a fabulous album, probably the best BOC album since Spectres. I'm still regularly playing it three years after it's release which doesn't happen too often.
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Post by frog on Dec 5, 2022 13:49:31 GMT
Without a doubt a fabulous album, probably the best BOC album since Spectres. I'm still regularly playing it three years after it's release which doesn't happen too often. 26 months.
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Post by ericvonha on Dec 5, 2022 19:39:02 GMT
The Contrarians can be interesting if you're into a specific band. I had no idea who they were or what they were doing.. however, my measure of YouTuber success is.. how long has the channel existed? How many subscribers do they have?
In this case, the Contrarians are kinda riding in the fail boat. They've been trying to get followers/subscribers for over 4 years and they're wallowing at 6k-ish loyalists at this point. Not so good. Not saying I could do better.. but they're barely treading water.
I did find the BOC review(s) to be horribad boring. It's "reviews" (plural "ess") because each contrarian takes 2-3-5 minutes to pontificate about their likes and dislikes. They rarely debate anything and I think that takes away from what could be good content creation.
The format the contrarians have chosen follows my own like/dislike patterns of listening. If I like something, I'll listen to it over and over again and form my own list of pluses and minuses. Plainly, I don't need anyone else to "talk at me" for 37 minutes about something that I will surely have my own opinion.
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Anyhow, outside of the Contrarian BOC interview, I did scroll into some others and did discover a gem. Their reviews of some Black Sabbath albums were enlightening. One of the Contrarians was involved with Black Sabbath back in the day and has some great insight into some things that have not generally been public knowledge. The guy is an author as well and his presentation of thought and details dwarfs the other contraros. So, long story short, I'd fire all of the Contraros.. and then hire gray haired Black Sabbath expert to do the entire gig.
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Post by tom on Dec 5, 2022 21:05:24 GMT
TSR gets plenty of play from me. I still really like the album but to compare it to OYFOOYK!!!!!!!!!! I'm a hardcore first 3 album guy and sorry but TSR is nowhere near that level IMHO Thats my opinion which is worth nothing to anyone else but there it is
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Post by Alessandro on Dec 5, 2022 21:25:46 GMT
personally, I'm sticking with Popoff's opinion (although for different reasons than his own). I do like it, but just don't love it
honestly
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