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Post by GtrM8kr on May 7, 2015 20:49:23 GMT
This is cool thread. Diggin it.
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Post by sirrastus on May 8, 2015 6:26:01 GMT
SWU sure got good gigs with big name bands back in the day-I guess thanks to Sandy and Howie Klein.In retrospect that would have been a pretty cool show to see. Ducky-I wonder if Andrew has a better recollection since his band history wasn't that long and he didn't have anything down the line in RnR to cloud his memory.I think a buddy of mine who went to Stoneybrook in the 70's saw Andrew playing with a folk band.
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Post by duckbarman on May 8, 2015 15:26:40 GMT
SWU sure got good gigs with big name bands back in the day-I guess thanks to Sandy and Howie Klein.In retrospect that would have been a pretty cool show to see. Ducky-I wonder if Andrew has a better recollection since his band history wasn't that long and he didn't have anything down the line in RnR to cloud his memory.I think a buddy of mine who went to Stoneybrook in the 70's saw Andrew playing with a folk band. So far as I know, Andrew Winters got together with David Roter and formed "Half Starving Graduate Students" - I did see an ad for a Stony Brook gig of theirs on 22 Nov 1974, which read: "The Golden Bear Cafe in O'Neill College features Andrew Winter (formerly of the Soft White Underbelly and Blue Oyster Cult), Harry Farkas (formerly of Santos Sisters) and David Roter at 10 p.m." > and he didn't have anything down the line in RnR to cloud his memoryThe problem is, his memory does seem to be somewhat clouded... but not by any trouble remembering events etc... I don't think I would be being indiscreet if I said that discussing the SWU with Andrew has proven to be... difficult. From his point of view, the whole Underbelly experience was completely tarnished by the circumstances surrounding his egress. He seems very conflicted - on the one hand, he feels that his part in the story has never really been highlighted or appreciated, and where it is documented, he feels it is often inaccurately and unfairly done so, and on the other hand, when he does start to relate his point of view, he gets so angry he has to stop. I'm no expert, but all this pent-up emotion cannot be good for a person - he needs to somehow let it go and try and be at peace with the situation as it was... and is... easier said than done, of course... The David Roter connection is interesting to me - Roter shared the original Bennetts Road house with Andy and John Wiesenthal and a couple other SB students, and as best as I can tell, it was Andy and a mate from his summer school sessions, drummer Joe Dick, who originally started jamming there, backing up Roter on his own songs. Then - somehow Andy learns that Buck is back home from college after the demise of Travesty up in Albany, and invites him along to a rehearsal. The story goes that Pearlman was visiting (fresh back from Monterey - so we're talking approx the end of June 67 - ish) and witnessed the rehearsal and a lightbulb went off in his head... What I've always wondered - and would like to document - is: (a) when Buck came round for the first practice - was that also backing up Roter on his songs - or was it just a free-for-all jam type thing...? (b) the session that so impressed Sandy Pearlman - was that at that first practice? Or were there others before Pearlman visited...? (c) when Buck later went to Chicago to visit Albert (during his period of "recuperation" after falling off a ladder), did he go there with the ulterior motive of enticing him back to LI to play in the emerging "band"...?
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Post by Buck on May 9, 2015 6:13:27 GMT
I know my wife Sandy, who was still in Potsdam then, has a snapshot of us. I'll try to track it down, but it's likely not where we are now. If Sandy has ANY pics from those early days, that would be VERY interesting to see!! > The specific dates are becoming a blur. I remember the broad evolution, but it's hard to recall specific events without prompting.I'm currently mapping out a whole new section to the Hot Rails site - covering everything up to 1972: Clarkson, Hobart, Disciples, Travesty, Lost & Found, SWU etc etc, so there may well be a spot or two of "prompting" from me in the future (just for a change): For example, any memories of this show?: What I remember of that show was The Band did a long sound check and weren't happy with the sound, and they held the admittance of the audience for an hour or so while they fiddled with it. I can't remember now if they did two shows. Don't remember much about our performance.
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Post by duckbarman on May 9, 2015 15:36:40 GMT
> What I remember of that show was The Band did a long sound check and weren't happy with the sound, and they held the admittance of the audience for an hour or so while they fiddled with it. I can't remember now if they did two shows. Don't remember much about our performance.There WERE two shows - the sound problems you describe happened between sets - and according to the review, the wait was worth it... By the way - Eric always says in interviews that he joined SWU in April 69 - but this gig was 3rd May, and featured Les and was, so far as I know, his last one with you...
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Post by Buck on May 9, 2015 20:45:51 GMT
Ha, it's funny to read something to remember what you did. Yeah, The Band held up the second show and then went on, leaving us to play after it was all over. It's amusing the reviewer spoke of us and The Band as if we were somehow on a similar plane of existence.
That seems like a hundred years ago now.
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Post by FUNCO on May 10, 2015 2:45:26 GMT
A really weird read.Although the writer rightfully describes the bands as experienced or young and inexperienced he also felt the need to make comparisons between the two as if they weren't.Almost as if I'm reading the reviews from two different people.Weird.For Buck that really must be a hoot since it's a zillion years ago.
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Post by Marina on May 10, 2015 3:24:13 GMT
Do you have anything from the Massapequa show at Burns Park in 2014? That was my first time seeing BOC and all the more special as it was in my hometown.
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Post by Buck on May 10, 2015 17:19:30 GMT
Marina, as it happens, I think I do. Attachments:
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Post by Marina on May 10, 2015 20:46:20 GMT
Thank you for looking, Buck. I'm a bit surprised you managed to find something from that show.
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Post by harley on May 10, 2015 20:54:33 GMT
Buck, what is the story behind the Gold Suit? I saw it on Merv Griffen as well. Was that designed by your Wife? Do you still have it?
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Post by agent on May 10, 2015 21:24:12 GMT
I still regret not bidding on the Gold Suit when Buck and Sandy offered the mounting!
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Post by edog40 on May 11, 2015 14:29:19 GMT
I thought they kept that, or was it the chain mail they kept?
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Post by Buck on May 12, 2015 5:11:36 GMT
Buck, what is the story behind the Gold Suit? I saw it on Merv Griffen as well. Was that designed by your Wife? Do you still have it? The chain mail top was a retail fashion item. I saw Debbie Harry once wearing the same thing. The leather pants were commerical also. Regrettably, for many the photos of that era, I was not as trim as I might have been. You don't want to call attention to yourself with gold shining garments in that circumstance. I still have the chain mail top in a 'gold record' style frame and plaque. It's a good icon from the "Burnin'" period of BOC.
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Post by edog40 on May 12, 2015 18:00:32 GMT
The chain mail was what you wore in the Mtv concert, no?
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